Friday, March 05, 2010

The Clergy

“The clergy, no less than the capitalist class, lives on the backs
of the people, profits from the degradation, the ignorance and the
oppression of the people. ”
Rosa Luxemburg, "Socialism and the Churches," 1905

And if I may add, most of these poor victims in the Philippines
are products of schools, colleges,and universities mostly owned
and operated by the Catholic Church. Poch Suzara

5 comments:

D.A.C. said...

Philippine colleges and universities produce doctors and scientists who add to the body of scientific knowledge through original scientific research. UST publishes a scientific journal and the University San Carlos publishes a scientific journal.

The Philippines also has universities that are not affiliated with the Catholic Church,- The University of the Philippines, UE, and FEU. UP is the national state college system which was set up during the commonwealth. It produces the Philippines's finest minds and intellects.

For those who do not know about the history of the university. Put briefly, the modern university evolved from the medieval university which in turn evolved from the cathedral schools of Catholic Europe in the Middle Ages.

The Philippines is not devoid of scientific minds. Caricatures and strawmen that's all Mr. Suzara provides.

Do you still assert there are no public libraries in the Philippines?

D.A.C.

Poch Suzara said...

Yes my dear. Just take a good look at our highly educated politicians in our inefficient government All with college education from La Salle, Ateneo, Assumption, UST, UP, San Beda, Letran, Adamson, Miriam, Lyceum, not to mention Asian Institute of Management, etc. etc.
In the Philippines, we are all born ignorant, not stupid. We are made stupid by education. Have you ever heard of a country that produces millions of college educated men and women all well prepared to work and earn a better living in other foreign countries, if not well prepared for the next life with God in the kingdom of heaven? Poch Suzara

Poch Suzara said...

Have you ever heard of Filipinos as a way of life who would first go to church to do a lot of praying than go visit public libraries to do a lot of reading? Poch Suzara

D.A.C. said...

Mr. Suzara once said, "Religion is ignorance. Ignorance is religion. Indeed, religion supports ignorance and ignorance supports religion" (Suzara, Jan. 4, 2010). And yet the universities arose out of Catholic medieval Europe. And Catholic universities produced and are still producing doctors and scientists. Vesalius was Catholic. Mendel was Catholic. Louis Pasteur was Catholic. Blaise Pascal was Catholic. Rene Descartes was Catholic. Mersenne was Catholic. Spallanzani was Catholic. Isaac Newton believed in God. Kepler believed in God.

So now Mr. Suzara asserts higher education makes Filipinos stupid. His argument is quite baffling. So Filipinos are stupid because they become educated and go work abroad? Mr. Suzara uses the words stupid and ignorant in such a cavalier manner that he has rendered both of these words meaningless.

The argument about going to church and going to a public library is also baffling. Indeed if the Philippines had only public libraries and no schools and universities Mr. Suzara would be clamoring for those. But seriously, one does not visit a library for four years and become a scientist or a doctor.

Public libraries do not confer degrees. Public libraries do not have science labs. And university libraries, perhaps with the exception to the National Libary, are more likely to have materials for the serious student to do research.

The fact that Filipino parents see it fit to send their children to schools and then to college and university renders Mr. Suzara's little prayer/reading argument moot. Sending one's child to college is the Filipino way. Education is important to the Filipino.

The teachers, professors and students of the Philippines have my respect. It is truly befuddling how Mr. Suzara could even cast aspersions on the excellence of the non-sectarian UP system just to make a point.

D.A.C.

Poch Suzara said...

I entirely agree that education is of the greatest value for and in life. Especially when education is all about the enhancement of human evolution for the sake nation-building. In the Philippines, however, education is mostly about soul-saving for the next life to be with God in heaven. After almost a century of education in our schools, colleges, and universities - where are we Filipinos as we nation in this already 21st century enjoying not only a higher standard of living, but also the higher standard of thinking? 15 million college educated Filipinos today are living and working in some 168 foreign countries only proves that we have neither love of country, nor love of fellow-citizens, which, again, is what education must be all about. Where is our sense of pride as a people, and where is our sense of self-respect as a nation? Poch Suzara