Friday, October 12, 2012

Poch Suzara Books Donation for PATAS

Oct. 12, 2012 Philippine Atheist and Agnotic Society - PATAS Ms. Marissa T Langseth, RN, MSN, ANP, BC Chairwoman Attn: Marissa Yes I have for donation to the first Atheist Library in the Philippines. TEN COPIES OF EACH: Bertrand Russell to the Rescue by Poch Suzara Philippine Damage Culture by Poch Suzara Only in the Philippines by Poch Suzara The Fools versus the Wise - booklet by poch Suzara Woman: the Corrupt Image of God - booklet by Poch Suzara My THE FAILURE OF EDUCATION UNDER THE SUCCESS OF CHRISTIANITY has not yet been published. I'd be happy to donate 10 copies when it is published. Also, I am still working at it though it is almost ready for publication - THE BIRTH AND DEATH OF AN ATHEIST by Poch Suzara I have other books here on science and philosophy that I will donate. Please have them picked up here at 8 Zipper Street, San Lorenzo Village, Makati. Best wishes, Poch Suzara, 0916-572-4788 p.s. bEFORE I am dead and gone, I donate all of my BERTRAND RUSSELL BOOKS. His non-technical writings - some 40 of them. Also books written by Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Robert G. Ingersol, Will Durant, Jeremiah Rifkin, Corliss Lamont, Ayn Rand, George H. Smith, Madlyn O'hair, Thomas Paine, Richard Feynman, Karen Armstrong, John Loftus, Susan Jacoby, Bishop Shelby Spong, Friedrich Nietzsche, Alvin Toffler, Howard Zinn, Theodoro A. Agoncillo, Jose Rizal, etc - more than 200 of them for the Atheist Library of the Philippines. Poch Suzara

Tuesday, October 09, 2012

Faith in Blind Faith

Due to faith in blind faith frightened into us during formative years at home and in school it is understandable that we can neither see nor can feel the horrors of religion. Religion harms children, adults, nations, culture, and society as a whole because the ideas behind it are not only irrational, but also promotes the feeling of personal inadequacy and anxiety indoctrinated into us during our formative years in school.. A child should be permitted to grow freely away from restrictive and dehumanizing ideas which are those of religion. Basically, religion is anti-life, anti-women, anti-sexuality, anti-reason, anti-reality, and anti-science. And these horrors are a heavy load to lay on a child who learns to follow in blind faith the strong theme that rewards poverty, submissiveness, sickness, or anything that would place such a child into an inferior position. By the same token, self-esteem, self-reliance, self-sufficiency, competence, intelligence, or anything that would put a child on a superior position is penalized or discouraged. God loves the humble, the meek, the frightened, the inferior; but God is jealous of the functional human intellect. Man should never be self-sufficient lest he offend God. This sets the stage for God in the role of the superior and man in the role of the inferior. God is the supreme being who needs servility and obedience to satisfy his egocentric qualities. Man must play the role of the inferior and as a reward for a submissive, unhappy, unrewarding life - he is promised that if he is good, a good for nothing dormat on this earth, he is assured of eternal salvation in heaven with God. This reward, however, is never defined. If a man is to earn God's favor, he indeed must live not with dignity, but with humility, and above all, he must not be happy. This is crucial in that to be happy might invoke envy from God, and man must live in fear of this envy. I said it before, I say it again: the horrors of religion in general, Catholicism in particular, have kept us filipinos traditionally poor as a people and historically backward as a nation. I say, it is time to dump organized religion out of our country. Instead of silly religiosity, let us enjoy intelligent SPIRITUALITY of which in its highest reality is to QUESTION EVERYTHING. After all, the good life is one inspired by love of life and guided by the love of knowledge! Poch Suzara

Monday, October 08, 2012

The Religion of Immorality

Here is a message from God in the bible protecting and defending not the morality of religion, but the religion of immorality for the sake of promoting human insanity: "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekelsof silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." Deut. 22:28-29 Poch Suzara

Sunday, October 07, 2012

It is Time to dump our Worthless Prayers

Oct. 8, 2012 Philippine Daily Inquirer Letter to the Editors Dear Sirs: Praying is like rocking a chair. It will help you do something but won't get you anywhere. Indeed, in the Philippines, since the 16th century - daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly we filipinos have been faithully praying repeatedly over and over again and look at the results in our country in this already 21st century: Millions more of us filipinos as a people today in the whole of Asia are still busy praying daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly; specially for the Second coming of the Lord to remedy the ills of our SICK SOCIETY as generated by our SICK SCHOOLS, SICK COLLEGES, AND SICK UNIVERSITIES - still teaching millions of Filipinos to continue to pray to God for the salvation of our poor and backward country - the only Catholic country in Asia since 400 years ago. I said it before, I say it again: as a decent people in an endless search to create for ourselves a decent nation it is time to dump our historically worthless, if not our utterly mindless prayers! Sincerely, Poch Suzara

Saturday, October 06, 2012

Where our Teachers and Professors come from

My dear Bro. Martin and Bro. Bob gabuna, I suggest you both look for empty cans and then insert your dicks inside it and go for it. I would not worry about the empty cans getting pregnant - it is where your teachers in school and college professors come from. Poch Suzara Dear Poch, I admire your straighforwardness and "humor" in your rebuttals. Empty cans could be risky especially when they are rusty. Perhaps, you could have tell the "gentlemen" to use other means, couldn't you? Enjoy and have a fabulous and wonderful time. More power to you! Yours as always, Dr. Bayani Katigbak

Friday, October 05, 2012

Millions of believers are Ignorant of Bible Contents

The Bible is the most-printed and most freely distributed book in the world, with many hundreds of millions of copies believed to be in existence. The bible books sold in bookstores have always been, at any time, a best sellers. Unfortunately, the bible is considered holy, a book written by inspired authors of God -therefore it need not be read. Its verses need only to be taken for granted; especially as expounded by the priest on the pulpit during mass on sundays or by the evangelical hypocrites on TV during weekdays. The big question is why isn't the bible read as any book should be read for its messages, if any? It is simply because properly and thoroughly read the bible is the most effective way to learn how to become an atheist! Indeed, only scholars and atheists are more familiar with bible contents. Millions upon millions of believers have yet to seriously read and study the bible. A book that is full of myths, legends, contradictions, inconsistencies, absurdities, obscenities, vulgarities, atrocities, lies and deceptions. In order to get to that conclusion, however, one must only seriously read the bible from cover to cover. No extra sources or inspirations are necessary. If we turn the bible on page one we will find two completely different descriptions of the same event - creation of man. In these descriptions in which various things were created is completely different. This is more than enough to conclude that one of these descriptions must be a lie. So we have found that the first page in the bible is a lie. The rest are full of completely different, mutually exclusive descriptions of the same event. Using the above resoning for each of these pairs of descriptions we can conclude that at least one of the descriptions can not be true. And this is how we can make the conclusion that Bible is book written by inspired lunatics. If authors inspired by logic can reveal the truth behind the multiplication table, why couldn't authors inspired by God reveal as well the truth behind the revelation table? As a matter of fact, insane messages written in the bible are about how life is not perfect as it is a defect. Therefore for the sake of revelation, not evolution - what we must seek is not reconstruction, but only obliteration; especially for the sake of gaining after death eternal salvation. The bible is the book of church - the Jewish church stands behind the Old Testament. The Christian church stands behind the New Testament. Behind both testaments, however, stand the priesthood industry. In the meantime, religious politicians are "voted" as the most admired in our poor and backward country. Even the highest court, the Supreme court, cringe before the power of organized religion. Our scientific community is so cowed it dares not challenge the religious liars that make for our sick society. Educators, especially college and university professors are paralyzed in fear, not even hoping to confront the sick monster known as organized religion keeping us aimless as a people and rudderless as a nation. Oh yes, millions of our citizens, by and large, remain religious illiterates. The bible is accepted but not read. Yet, on this book, as the alleged word of God, rests the entire superstructure of our faith, beliefs, and values that inspired the birth of the Dark Ages during the 5th century. I asked it before, I ask it again: After the college educated theologians have proved with evidences that God of the bible exists here, there, and everywhere - how would such information improve the lives of millions of spiritually malnourished, culturally impoverished, and indeed, materially pulverized Filipinos in the Philippines - the only Catholic country in Asia since the 16th century? Poch Suzara

Thursday, October 04, 2012

College-Educated Corrupt Government Officials

Come on you frigthened blind faithfools - take a good look at our poor and backward country historically managed by COLLEGE-educated government officials as the corrupt products of LA SALLE, ATENEO, UST, SAN BEDA, ASSUMPTION COLLEGE, MIRIAM, UP, LETRAN, AIM, ETC. All blessed by God as such schools, colleges, and universities generate a corrupt system of education for us Filipinos to be corrupt in order to survive in our own country. Poch Suzara,

Monday, October 01, 2012

Adam and Eve Were no ATHEISTS

Let's take a closer look at Adam and Eve - they were NO atheists. They believed, loved, and venerated God. But look how they both ended up damned and damned good. God even inspired the Talking Serpent to get them both to be guilty of the Original Sin! As if Adam and Eve ever originated anything in this world to begin with! In the meantime, my dear reader, haven't you as yet noticed the frightened dumbstruck maka-dios government officials as leaders of our sick country. They never stop to declare that God should not be blamed for all that is wrong in our country. It is our fault. Indeed, I agree. It is not only our fault, it is also our fear and ignorance specially in our failure to ask: GOD, WHAT ARE YOU A GOD FOR? Specially a GOD for the HERE AND NOW? And not a GOD for that by and by bullshit pie-in-the-sky later on? Poch Suzara

Sunday, September 30, 2012

The Filipino - Poorest people in Asia

According to a UN-Habitat report, over 20 million Filipinos in the Philippines live in slums, and in Metro Manila alone. There are more than 800,000 Pinays working as prostitutes in Metro Manila. Many of them are underage. In the meantime, because we have no national health care system an average of 52 Pinays die every 24 hours from pregnancy-related causes. According to the Asian Development Bank, over 25 million Filipinos don’t have access to the basic sanitation afforded by toilet facilities; another 13 million don’t have proper water resources - without plumbing or communal water taps, many rely on creek water and deep wells which can often be unsafe for human consumption. Poverty cannot be measured in pesos and centavos alone. Poverty must be viewed from a larger, deeper, if not a wider perspective: social, political, spiritual, cultural, educational, environmental; and indeed, poverty in science and technology. We are, indeed, the poorest people in Asia. Consider: We are rudderless as people; directionless as a nation. We have no love for our country. None are rich in spirit. We have no respect for law and order. We have no sense of the future of our nation's children. In brief, we have nothing great going on for us Filipinos - except God, and his Son Jesus; Mary, the Mother of God; and of course the Pope who is not even a Filipino. Surely, millions of Filipinos feel God has blessed them. In fact, we are taught in schools, colleges, and universities to always believe what Jesus declared: "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ARE POOR IN SPIRIT, FOR THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN." In the ultimate analysis, millions of us filipino share something great in common together: For the love of Jesus up there, we are all poor in spirit down here! Poch Suzara Twitter# Facebook# Google#

Love and Sex and Books

A man gives love in order to get sex. A woman gives sex in order to get love. Trouble begins when the woman needs not more thinking, exploring, learning, discovering, questioning, and reading; but needs only more loving, more praying, more financing, and indeed, more fucking. Each time I had that kind of a silly relationship with a tootie-frootie, I went back home to be with my one and only real love in this world: love of books! Poch Suzara Twitter# Facebook# Google#

Thursday, September 27, 2012

Who Gives a Hoot about our Scientists and Technologists

Sept.27, 2-12 Philippine Daily Inquirer Letter to the Editors Dear Sir: In our sick society, in order to maintain ourselves famous worldwide as the Sick Man of Asia - we are far more fascinated with the works of our manicurists, pedicurists, hair-stylists, florists, and indeed, the catechists and the exorcists. We couldn't give a hoot about the works of Filipino scientists and technologists to rescue our sick country out of its poverty, religious misery, political stupidity, and social insanity! And to think that as the only Christian country in Asia since the 16th century, in this already 21st century - we still faithfully believe that God has always blessed our poor and backward country! Sincerely, Poch Suzara

Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Rotten Truth Revealed in the Bible

Listen to this rotten truth revealed by GOD, THE FATHER: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 Listen to this rotten truth revealed by JESUS, THE SON GOD: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matt 10:34-37 Listen to this rotten truth revealed by the Holy Spirit of the Holy Trinity: "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Matt 12:31 I asked it before, I ask it again: My dear reader, do you now understand why as the only Christian country in Asia, we Filipinos are the only ones who are spiritually twisted as a people and morally distorted as a nation? To begin with, millions of us do not bother to read the bible. When, however, we do read it, and do not understand its rotten verses - we have been frightened to believe that such rotten verses are really morsels of divine wisdom! In the meantime, schools, colleges, and universities teach millions upon millions of Filipinos to defend and protect the Philippines not that she is a free and independent as a Republic, but that she is, more than anything else, historically, a Catholic country. For my part, as one born in the Philippines some 79 years ago, for love of my country, I would rather be atheistic. I do not care to be a Catholic. I have no taste for anything satanic, nor do I care to swallow anything theocratic! Poch Suzara

Monday, September 24, 2012

A man of Reason versus a Man of Faith

A man of reason is a sober, intelligent man who has neither the taste for lies nor the gumption for deception. A man of faith, however, is like a drunkard dummy who clings to a lamppost for support, not illumination! Poch Suzara

Ye, Escape the Damnation of Hell for Jesus

Jesus, in the bible, shouts: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell!" Matthew 23:33 If Jesus were alive today in the Philippines, he would shout at the same: Ye Catholic Bishops, Ye Bro. Eli Soriano of Dating Daan, Ye Bro. Mike Velarde of El Shaddai, Ye Bro. Eddie Villanueva of Jesus is Lord Movement, Ye Bro. Eduardo Manalo of Iglesia Ni Cristo, Ye Brothers of the United Church of Christ, Ye preachers of the 700 Club Prayer Center, and Ye, you owners of La Salle, Ateneo, San Beda, UST, Assumption college, AIM, Letran, Miriam college, and University of the Philippines - how can ye all escape the DAMNATION OF HELL! Oh yes, ye sinners and criminals and thieves, you should all listen to yourselves on TV daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly - hurling HATE at against each other down here for the glory of Jesus up there! While millions of Filipinos remain NOT as the rich and brightened masters, but as the poor and frightened victims of Christianity in the Philippines since the 16th century. Indeed, for Christ's sake, millions of us Filipinos continue to be the victims of poverty of the worst kind: the poverty of the mind and heart - preventing us, historically, to live the good life in our own country - one inspired by the power of love and guided by the power of knowledge! Poch Suzara

Sunday, September 23, 2012

My Job as a Senior Citizen

My letter published today in the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Sept. 24, 2012: In human affairs, there are forces making for happiness, and forces making for misery. We do not know which will prevail, but to act wisely, we must be aware of both. - Bertrand Russell For my part, as a senior citizen, (75 years) I say old age, like any other age, is the time to struggle against lies and deceptions that keep us Filipinos spiritually poor as a people, and that keep the Philippines morally bankrupt as a nation. - Poch Suzara

Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Jesus Never Even Attended Grade School

Wow Bob Gabuna & Wow Tony Villan, I cut and paste from the works of great philosophers, scientists, leaders, and writers, not to mention books written by historians, anthropologists, sociologists, astronomers, biologists, psychiatrists, paleontologists, and physicists including famous mathematicians and logicians. In the meantime, you both just do nothing but parrot over and over again the words of a Jewish fellow who never even attended grade school - known as Jesus Christ. God, his silly Father, declared: "FOR IT IS WRITTEN, I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND WILL BRING TO NOTHING THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRUDENT." 1 Cor.1:19. Hijo de su puta madre, conio! COME ON YOU GUYS, stop fucking around. INSTEAD, DO SOME THINKING - there is nothing quite like it in all of nature! Also, on these pages, I have already published my exact home address and have already invited you to visit me and my personal library. So please stop hiding and show yourselves. Show me not only your BALLS but also you BRAINS! Nakakahiya kayo mga ULOL! It is stupid religious jerks like you that keep the Filipino spiritually fucked as a people and keep the Philippines morally fucked as a nation! SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU COLLEGE-EDUCATED MORONS! Poch Suzara

Saturday, September 15, 2012

The Concept of God is Unknowable

The belief that god is basically unknowable is the most important epistemological element of theistic belief. It is shared by all theists to some extent, who disagree only with regard to what degree, if any, god's nature can be known. We must remember that theism maintains not just that god's nature is unknown to man at the present time, but that god's nature is unknowable in principle. Man will never understand god, which is expressed by such terms as ineffable, inexpressible, transcendent, unfathomable, and indeed, incomprehensible. The most extreme version of this belief is religious agnosticism, which holds that the nature of god is completely unknowable... First, we must ask: If god cannot be known, how can god be known to exist? Quoting Nathaniel Branden, "To claim that a thing is unknowable, one must first know that it exists--but assert the existence of the unknowable is to claim knowledge of the unknowable, in which case it cannot be unknowable." Second, if god cannot be comprehended, then none of his attributes can be known--including the attribute of incomprehensibility. To state that something is by nature unknowable is to pronounce knowledge of its nature, in which case we are again involved in a contradiction. When one claims that something is unknowable, CAN ONE PRODUCE KNOWLEDGE IN SUPPORT OF THIS CLAIM? If one cannot, one's assertion is arbitrary and utterly without merit. If one can, one has accomplished the impossible: one has knowledge of the unknowable... To claim that god is incomprehensible is to say that one's concept of god is unintelligible, which is to confess that one does not know what one is talking about. The theist who is called upon to explain the content of his belief--and who then introduces the "unknowable" as a supposed characteristic of the concept itself--is saying, in effect: "I will explain the concept of god by pointing out that it cannot be explained." Atheists have long contended that the concept of god is unintelligible, this being a major reason why it cannot be accepted by any rational man. The theist who openly admits this cannot expect to be taken seriously. The idea of the unknowable is an insult to human intelligence, and it renders the beliefs of a theist not worth believing. Now let us assume that God became Jesus as Jesus is God. So how come Jesus never bothered to explain for the sake of human decency - the clarity of extraterrestrial complexity into intellectual simplicity to render complete understanding of the complexity for the whole of the humanity to grasp the reality of divinity, globally? Poch Suzara

WHO OR WHAT IS GOD

Atheists: If You're Looking For A Miracle To Prove God Exists, How Do You Explain This? (published in GOOGLE) Scientists at NASA were plotting the positions of the Sun, Moon, and other planets 100 years from now, and 1,000 years from now, in order to calculate spacecraft trajectories. As the sophisticated government computers worked with the data fed into them, they suddenly and unexpectedly came to a grinding halt. Service technicians were called in, but were unable to find anything mechanically wrong. The computers, so the story goes, had discovered a day missing in time. No one knew why the computers were acting the way they were, or how to fix them. However, one scientist on the team had gone to Sunday school when he was a child, and, from the teaching he had received there, he recalled a story from the Old Testament in which God had made the Sun stand still for a day, or thereabouts. The other NASA engineers — profound disbelievers in God and His Word — ridiculed him for even suggesting that such “information” might provide a solution to their problem. However, the scientist turned to Joshua 10, and read the story. The engineers then reworked the data being fed into the computers, adding in the “lost day” of Joshua, and the computers whirred along perfectly — almost. The computers stopped again because they had not discovered a whole day; something was still missing. Apparently (so the story goes) the computers found only 23 hours and 20 minutes. In other words, 40 minutes were still missing. But, the scientist who had suggested that they look in the Bible for the answer in the first place once again suggested what might be the answer to this conundrum. He remembered something else he had been taught. In II Kings 20, the biblical record says that King Hezekiah, upon being promised a cure from his illness and thus a longer life, had requested a sign from God. The text indicates that God made the Sun move backwards ten degrees. Ten degrees, said the scientist, would be exactly 40 minutes! And that provided the entire 24-hour day the computers needed. The Bible had the answer all along! Note: NOW WHAT WE ATHEISTS NEED TO KNOW IS WHETHER GOD IS A CATHOLIC, A JEW, OR A MUSLIM, A MUGGLETONIAN, OR WHO KNOWS MAY BE GOD IS A POCHOLOGIAN? Poch Suzara

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

My Dear Jaime Calero

Jaime Calero, c/o De La Salle University Taft Ave., Manila Dear Mr. Jaime Calero, A history of culture, conceived in its widest sense, includes religion, politics, art, philosophy, science and technology. Ours is a failed culture because we have far more politics always in cahoots with religion together as a people than we do have art, philosophy, science, and technology as a nation. If this history of culture were too complicated for you to grasp, please allow me, as a high-school expelled student, to simplify the academic complexity for you: A nation that produces 3 babies every minute of the day and night or 1.5 million babies yearly is a nation that enjoys the culture of FUCKING, not the culture of THINKING. Ours, indeed, is a mindless culture. Protected and defended by the Thoughtless. We have no hope in science; especially as it is about the perfection of humanity. We only have faith in religion - the belief that rather than work for perfection we must only seek in this world obliteration via mutilation, if not by self-destruction. What is cultural in our country is not about the growth or development of the Philippines as a decent nation. What is cultural is the code of sexual behavior that would guarantee precisely the survival of Christianity in our country. The Christian priesthood industry left no stone unturned in their determination to convert the Pinay's female uterus into a baby factory to produce on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis - Christian babies. JAIME, I asked it before, I ask it again: how can we be a nation of readers, writers, reporters, explorers, researchers, discoverers, manufacturers, traders, importers, exporters, managers, workers, farmers, growers, planters, poultry-raisers, painters, carpenters, welders, plumbers, domestic-helpers, TV producers, movie directors, forest-rangers, law-enforcers, judges and lawyers, professors, and teachers - since, to begin with, in our schools, colleges, and universities - we are educated first and foremost to rely and to believe only on the power of stupid prayers? In the meantime, churches and cathedrals, shrines and crucifixes, and indeed, revealed truths in the holy bible that have yet to be revealed have all played crucial roles in molding the Filipino minds and hearts to be famous as the Sick Man of Asia. Jaime, for my part, as an atheist and a student of books since I was 14 years old, I have learned to live a life without fear of this or fear of that. In fact, I thank God that I have learned to become an atheist. After all, God himself is an atheist. God has no religion. God does not lead himself into temptation; nor does He pray to Mary, His mother, to always pray for Him. Cheers! Poch Suzara San Lorenzo Village, Makati city, Philippines

Monday, September 10, 2012

Please - Let us be Honest with Ourselves

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: The fact is, a lot of you, are bothered and indeed shocked not because of my vulgar language or profanity, or blasphemy - but because I have been exposing in this venue TRUTHS that a lot of you could not believe are revealed as the Revealed Truth in the bible. So much so that you deny them or just mindlessly accuse me of not knowing how to read the bible under proper spiritual guidance by the holy spirit. My dear poor saps and jerks, more people have been killed in the name of Jesus Christ than any other name in the history of our world. Catholics and Protestants in the name of Jesus have been vilifying, attacking, torturing, bombing, and killing each other in Northern Ireland since the 14th century. Adolf Hitler killed more than 6 million Jews. In his famous book - MEIN KAMPF, he admitted: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty creator; by defending myself against the Jews, I am fighting for the Lord. . . I would like to thank providence and the almighty for choosing me of all people." "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." "The LORD ѕаw hоw great man’s wickedness on the earth hаd become, аnd that everу inclination of thе thoughts оf his heart wаs onlу evil all the time.” Gen.6:5. In the meantime, it is utterly ridiculous for the Lord to have dismissed his own claim - He created man in his own image and likeness. I urge you all to seriously look around you and see millions of Filipinos, disciples of Jesus, how they have and still do substantiate daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly these words uttered by Jesus: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26 As if those sacred words uttered by Jesus were not enough to make us famous as the Sick Man of Asia, here is more from Jesus, the beloved Savior of the Philippines: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." A lot of you people in this forum have already heard this from me, but again, I ask: Have any of you ever heard of a Filipino who got to be FILTHY RICH for believing that Jesus is BAD? So how come millions upon millions of Filipinos are FILTHY POOR and yet they all believe and have faith that Jesus is GOOD! Meanwhile, the rich Vatican Catholic bank is getting richer, in fact richer and far more powerful than the United States Federal Reserve Bank. I am, indeed, an atheist, and I challenge you - to please be honest with me as we should be honest towards each other! I may have my faults, but have I ever lied to any of you? Or worst - have I ever told any of you to hate your father and mother, hate your brothers and sisters, hate your sons and daughters, and yea, to hate even your own life as Jesus, in the bible, said you should hate in order to be his disciples and followers? Best wishes to all of you, Poch Suzara