Atheist Mark Twain rationally dismissed the fear of death. He clearly wrote: “I do not fear death. I have been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”
For my part, as an atheist myself, let me put it in this way: for billions of years before I was born, I was existing as a nothing. Now why should it bother me to realize that after I am dead, I will again be existing as a nothing?
Life after death? I say – fuck that shit - dead as it is! Poch
44 comments:
Poch,
Why be angry at something you do not believe in ? I think the truth is you are afraid that you might be wrong about God after all. Like I mentioned in my other posting about Pascal's wager. Atheist dont have a chance of winning if there is a God, that is a very scary thought. I am very sorry for you.
My dear, please go to GOOGLES, type out PASCAL'S SILLY WAGERS by Poch Suzara. Enjoy. Best wishes, Poch
Athomist: There goes that usual theist canard that atheists are angry. No, we're not. We are just stating what we believe, or don't believe. As for your god, well, let's say that you die and there really is a god. The only problem is it is not your god, it is Zeus or Thor or Isis or any one of the thousands of gods that man has invented. That is a scary thought, and I am very sorry for you!
PinoyHeathen
Anonymous,
Ever heard of communism and Nazism ? They killed more people than any wars combined.
Anonymous,
God is one and not many by definition. Many god is mis understanding of God. An honest, thinking, reasonable person will come to the conclusion that there is one God.
Poch,
You do not understand what Pascal wager is and its implication.
"...there is one God..."
You'll have a problem with that! By your definition then, Yahweh=Jesus=Mithra=Zeus=Allah=Joseph Smith=Ganesh=Vishnu=Brahma=Thor. WIll you allow yourself to worship Allah instead of Jesus since they are one and the same?
PinoyHeathen
PinoyHeathen,
"debunked so many times"
Wow ! Base your arguments on lies and you will be able to prove anything. You are living in a dreamworld, the only way to prove your point is through lies.
You are not interested in the TRUTH.
PinoyHeathen,
"You'll have a problem with that! By your definition then, "
I suggest you explore more books on God and history. Your arguments are amateurist, were you kicked out of La Salle too ?
"..were you kicked out of La Salle too ?"
I think you're getting desperate. You're resorting to insults now! Well, it's not a surprise. Believers always use this tactic. And I suppose you have 'logic?'
"You are not interested in the TRUTH."
What are the lies that I stated? Adolf Hitler is a Roman Catholic? Did the Communists shout 'Onward Christian soldiers' or 'Allahu Akbar' while doing their killing? Tell me, readers may want to know.
>What are the lies that I stated? >Adolf Hitler is a Roman Catholic?
Most Europeans like Hitler, Stalin and most Filipinos most likely like Poch or probably even you are Catholics. Does that mean they are Catholic ? I dont think so just ask Poch, HELL tell you, if you know what I mean.
>""..were you kicked out of La Salle >too ?"
>I think you're getting desperate."
Poch has no problem saying he was kicked out of La Salle why will you ?
"God is one, it is people's definition of Him differ. It is the Jews and Christians that got it right. Christians as in Catholic."
Your definition! The Jews don't consider your Jesus a god, don't you know that? Therefore, the Jewish god is not your Catholic god, the triune god. Even some fundamentalist sects don't consider Catholics as Christians, and vice versa. If the Jews and the Christians worship the same god, why is it that until the early 1960s, official Catholic dogma called Jews 'Christ-killers?'
"..HELL tell you, if you know what I mean."
There goes the name-calling, plus the usual insults! Happens all the time when a Christian apologist is running out of ammo.
"..this is a lie big time. "
That Nazis are atheists?
"Poch has no problem saying he was kicked out of La Salle why will you ?"
No, I wasn't kicked out of any school. I am a professional Mechanical Engineer, but it is irrelevant. Why does being kicked out of any school be of importance to the discussion here - and to you especially. Are you saying that you are more intelligent than all the people in this blog? Poch was kicked out not because of academics.
"Most Europeans like Hitler, Stalin and most Filipinos most likely like Poch or probably even you are Catholics."
This is wrong. Most Europeans ARE NOT Catholics. Eastern Orthodox churches are not Catholics, they don't recognize your pope. Church of England of course broke away from Rome. Scandinavian countries are mostly atheists and Lutherans. Germans are more Lutherans than Catholics. Turkey is Muslim. Religious Russians are mostly Eastern Orthodox like Romania and Greece. The Balkans is a mixed bag. Here, see for yourself:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Europe_religion_map_en.png
This is wrong. Most Europeans ARE NOT Catholics. Eastern Orthodox churches are not Catholics, they don't recognize your pope.
You dont know the story, the east and west were one before the great schism. For simplicitys sake I am using Catholic. In any case irrelevant in this discussion but you are wrong to point out that Hitler was a Catholic since he did things that are contrary to the faith or even Stalin for that matter.
So to make things simple we will say that Stalin, Hitler, Mao etc were atheist since they acted it.
"The writers of the New Testament were all Jews except for Luke."
Yes, in most likelihood, they were written by Jews. However, the Gospels were not written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. They were written by unknown authors but were attributed to them. The earliest Gospel, the book of Mark, is believed to be written at least a generation after the supposed crucifixion.
"You havent studied Christianity enough." It's obvious that you have studied Christianity, but only from the point of view of believers and apologists. I challenge you to read the view from the other side. Based on what you have written, I don't think you have.
"Your definition! The Jews don't consider your Jesus a god, don't you know that?"
Sorry if I confused you. I meant the non-Jesus follower Jews, and the mainstream Jews of today don't consider Jesus a god.
"Poch, Why be angry at something you do not believe in ?"
He was just being facetious about it!
"Yes, in most likelihood, they were written by Jews. However, the Gospels were not written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John. They were written by unknown authors but were attributed to them. The earliest Gospel, the book of Mark, is believed to be written at least a generation after the supposed crucifixion."
This is modern thinking and not orthodox, ever heard of EWTN, catholic radio ?
"since you believe that Nazis are atheists, just like your pope, a Nazi Youth himself, you may want to read this:"
You may want to know why the chief Rabbi of Rome in WWII became Catholic http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212clas.asp
"your beloved pedophile Catholic priests (and there are many!)"
Your DATA is erroneous, pedophiles are less than 3 %, much less than any group of people when compared. You have more sex scandals in other types of professions. Thats not to say that this is not bad.
""You havent studied Christianity enough." It's obvious that you have studied Christianity, but only from the point of view of believers and apologists. I challenge you to read the view from the other side. Based on what you have written, I don't think you have."
I must admit I dont have extensive knowledge of the other side but I know enough to refute their claim, your claim
"..HELL tell you, if you know what I mean."
There goes the name-calling, plus the usual insults! Happens all the time when a Christian apologist is running out of ammo.
Very funny, ask Poch to explain to you what pun is.
"I must admit I dont have extensive knowledge of the other side but I know enough to refute their claim, your claim"
Sure you do!
"Your DATA is erroneous, pedophiles are less than 3 %, much less than any group of people when compared. You have more sex scandals in other types of professions. Thats not to say that this is not bad."
One pedophile priest is one too many. A bishop or cardinal recycling this one pedophile priest to another parish to continue raping young boys and girls is just as guilty of the crime. A pope protecting his pedophile mafia instead of the victims does not deserve to be respected. Thanks for admitting that this is bad.
".. know enough to refute their claim, your claim"
You haven't refuted anything yet. Of course, in your mind you have, because you are a delusional Catholic.
"..Very funny, ask Poch to explain to you what pun is."
Beri beri pun-ni!
"..The earliest Gospel, the book of Mark, is believed to be written at least a generation after the supposed crucifixion."
This is modern thinking and not orthodox, ever heard of EWTN, catholic radio ?"
No, I haven't heard of EWTN. I assume this is your unbiased source for your information. The brainwashing continues.
Of course, that is modern thinking! The idea is heresy. Had it been brought up during the Inquisition, one could end up being burned at the stake. The burning is of course, preceded by torture. The torture devices were commissioned by the church.
"You may want to know why the chief Rabbi of Rome in WWII became Catholic http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212clas.asp"
So a rabbi converted to Catholicism. What does it have to do with your claim (and Pope Benedict!) that the Nazis are atheists?
One pedophile priest is one too many.
That is why we need the Church, let me remind you that the number of sex scandal in other profession is HIGHER.
So a rabbi converted to Catholicism. What does it have to do with your claim (and Pope Benedict!) that the Nazis are atheists?
If the Pope is a nazi like you said why would a chief rabbai in Rome become Catholic ? This rabbai was there in Rome in WWII. C'mon your claims are just way out of line.
You haven't refuted anything yet. Of course, in your mind you have, because you are a delusional Catholic.
What ? Please whatever you are smoking share it.
No, I haven't heard of EWTN. I assume this is your unbiased source for your information. The brainwashing continues.
Do you believe there is no TRUTH ?
"That is why we need the Church.."
Yes, I agree. They have to be around to protect pedophile priests.
"If the Pope is a nazi like you said why would a chief rabbai in Rome become Catholic ? This rabbai was there in Rome in WWII. C'mon your claims are just way out of line."
Ratzinger was not even a priest in WWII, he was in the Nazi Youth! I think you're getting confused.
"Do you believe there is no TRUTH ?"
Define 'TRUTH'.
" This rabbai was there in Rome in WWII. C'mon your claims are just way out of line."
I didn't say that the WWII pope was Nazi. I said that the current pope, Ratzinger, was in the Nazi Youth! How can this be out of line? Anger is clouding your understanding, relax!
"You havent studied Christianity enough."
Well, here's a very recent poll data from the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life that confirms atheists and agnostics are more knowledgable about religion than believers.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-religion-survey-20100928,0,3225238.story
Belief in Jesus is not the same as belief in one GOD. Ask the Muslims and they will tel you their god the real one. The "real one"? What a mess!
If you still believe in your Jesus as the one God, then you might be wrong in believing since each on of these so called religions has their own god.
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